halting problem :: GSK Demystified (III) — Interlude

See the the tag for the GSK demystified series for the other articles in the series.

There have been multiple reports after GUADEC about the state of GSK, so let’s recap a bit by upholding the-long standing tradition of using a FAQ format as a rhetorical device.


Q: Is GSK going to be merged in time for 3.22?

A: Short answer: no.

Long-ish answer: landing a rewrite of how GTK renders its widgets near the end of a stable API cycle, when a bunch of applications that tend to eschew GTK+ itself for rendering their content — like Firefox or LibreOffice — finally, after many years, ported to GTK+ 3, seemed a bit sadistic on our part.

Additionally, GSK still has some performance issues when it comes to large or constantly updating UIs; try running, for instance gtk3-widget-factory on HiDPI using the wip/ebassi/gsk-renderer branch and marvel at the 10 fps we achieve currently.

Q: Aside from performance, are there any other concerns?

A: Performance is pretty much the biggest concern we found. We need to reduce the amount of rasterizations we perform with Cairo, and we need better ways to cache and reuse those rasterizations across frames; we really want all buttons with the same CSS state and size to be rasterized once, for instance, and just drawn multiple times in their right place. The same applies to things like icons. Caching text runs and glyphs would also be a nice win.

The nice bit is that, with a fully retained render tree, now we can actually do this.

The API seems to have survived contact with the widget drawing code inside GTK+, so it’s a matter of deciding how much we need to provide in terms of convenience API for out-of-tree widgets and containers. The fallback code is in place, right now, which means that porting widgets can proceed at its own pace.

There are a few bugs in the rendering code, like blend modes; and I still want to have filters like blur and color conversions in the GskRenderNode API.

Finally, there’s still the open question of the mid-level scene graph API, or GskLayer, that will replace Clutter and Clutter-GTK; the prototype is roughly done, but things like animations are not set in stone due to lack of users.

Q: Is there a plan for merging GSK?

A: Yes, we do have a plan.

The merge window mostly hinges on when we’re going to start with a new development cycle for the next API, but we decided that as soon as the window opens, GSK will land. Ideally we want to ensure that, by the time 4.0 rolls around, there won’t be any users of GtkWidget::draw left inside GNOME, so we’ll be able to deprecate its use, and applications targeting the new stable API will be able to port away from it.

Having a faster, more featureful, and more optimized rendering pipeline inside GTK+ is a pretty good new feature for the next API cycle, and we think that the port is not going to be problematic, given the amount of fallback code paths in place.

Additionaly, by the time we release GTK+ 4.0, we’ll have a more battle-tested API to replace Clutter and Clutter-GTK, allowing applications to drop a dependency.

Q: How can I help?

A: If you’re a maintainer of a GTK+ library or application, or if you want to help out the development of GTK+ itself, then you can pick up my GSK development branch, fork it off, and look at porting widgets and containers. I’m particularly interested in widgets using complex drawing operations. See where the API is too bothersome, and look for patterns we can wrap into convenience API provided by GTK+ itself. For instance, the various gtk_render_* family of functions are a prime candidate for being replaced by equivalent functions that return a GskRenderNode instead.

Testing is also welcome; for instance, look at missing widgets or fragments of rendering.


Hopefully, the answers above should have provided enough context for the current state of GSK.

The next time, we’ll return to design and implementation notes of the API itself.

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